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									  		 		 <p style="text-align: right"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="color:#2980b9">文｜晏子萍</span></span></p> <h3 style="border: none;margin: 0cm"><span style="color:#c0392b"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">家族遷臺路線：</span><span style="line-height:25.0pt">中國東北&rarr;新疆&rarr;蘭州&rarr;上海(乘坐飛機)&rarr;台灣高雄</span></span></span></span></h3> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt"><span style="font-family:標楷體"><span style="color:#cc3300"></span></span></span></b></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">1944</span></span></b><b><span style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">年在新疆出生的祁德亮，年方兩歲時，因為哈薩克族人入侵，被迫隨著家人遷徙到甘肅蘭州，「當年住在黃河大鐵橋附近，看到黃河壯闊雄偉，但是時隔超過一甲子後，舊地重遊，卻發現黃河竟然沒有往日印象中那麼寬廣，或許是因為自己長大長高了，也或許是因為看過更多的名山勝水」，對照今昔心境，祁德亮不禁有感而發！</span></span></b></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><img decoding="async" alt="" src="https://www.sccf.org.tw/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/105401_story146_storye4b99de69bb2e9bb83e6b2b3e890ace9878ce6b299-e4b880e9878de5a4a9e5a496e4b880e9878de5a4a9.png" style="width: 1210px;height: 664px" /><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">生在新疆，成長在蘭州、上海、台灣，讓祁德亮擁有宏觀的視野。</span></span></b></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black"></span></span></b></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="font-size:18px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="color:#2980b9"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><b>九一八事變轉進新疆 &nbsp;成家立業落地生根</b></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="color:black">「我的父親祁化成</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民前</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">4</span></span><span style="color:black">年生</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">原隸屬於東北軍，負責軍需業務，</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1941</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">20)</span></span><span style="color:black">爆發</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">918</span></span><span style="color:black">事變，中央為了避免與日本產生衝突，因此採取消極作為，導致日本關東軍在很短的時間內就佔據東北三省，因此父親所屬的部隊不得不經由西伯利亞轉進新疆」，祖籍遼寧省遼中縣的祁德亮講述父親在新疆定居的原因。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="color:black">父親與母親的相遇可說是千里姻緣一線牽，祖籍浙江紹興的母親屠秀菁，則是因為家中長輩</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">三爺</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">時任新疆高等法院院長，母親與兩位哥哥亦長居當地，因此與父親結識，兩人成婚後，育有二子一女</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">姐姐、哥哥、祁德亮</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">，而祁化成在新疆先後擔任過警務處處長、「獨山子煉油廠」廠長，以及「新疆印製廠」</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">負責印製鈔票</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">廠長等職務。祁化成一生為人清廉，祁德亮告訴我們：「家父擔任印製廠廠長時，</span> <span style="color:black">盛世才時任新疆督辦，他曾經向我父親索取一筆極鉅之金額，但父親表示未見公文絕不支付，盛世才極度震怒，將我父親下獄一百天，以做懲戒，但是父親不畏威權，絕不向惡勢力妥協」，也由於這樣的操守，讓祁德亮日後在職場上亦有清廉的作為。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><img decoding="async" alt="" src="https://www.sccf.org.tw/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/105402_story146_storye4b99de69bb2e9bb83e6b2b3e890ace9878ce6b299-e4b880e9878de5a4a9e5a496e4b880e9878de5a4a9-1.jpg" style="width: 671px;height: 468px" /></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</b><span style="font-size:16px"><b><span style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">祁德亮(右二)與父母、哥哥、姊姊合影</span></span></b></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="font-size:18px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="color:#2980b9"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><b>兵連禍結 成為異鄉人</b><span lang="EN-US"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"> <span style="color:black">新疆自古即是物產富饒之地，因此不免引起周邊族群的覬覦，</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1946</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">35)</span></span> <span style="color:black">哈薩克族人入侵新疆，燒殺擄掠無惡不作，新疆省政府下令動員撤退，祁德亮表示：「當時第一批撤退人員為眷屬，在軍隊的護衛下，母親帶著我們三個孩子以及母親的三爺、哥哥，經由河西走廊遷徙到蘭州，而我的父親則隨同政府直接撤退到上海，成為新疆省政府派駐上海辦事處的一員」。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:red"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="color:black">初到蘭州，一家人住在黃河大鐵橋</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">今日中山橋</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">附近，祁德亮當時年幼，但是仍有許多記憶縈繞在腦海中，他依稀記得，當年在橋頭有許多小攤，都在販售一簍簍的紅棗，另外，大家愛吃的核桃，雖然外殼堅硬不易撬開，但是頭腦機靈的孩子還是會想方設法來解決，「我們將核桃放在四合院粗壯的門柱上，然後推門，藉由門的重力來壓碎外殼，不消三兩下，核桃仁就入口啦」！</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="color:black">由於那個年代沒有自來水，家家戶戶皆就近取用黃河之水，但是一片黃濁如何做為民生用水</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">? </span></span><span style="color:black">祁德亮告訴我們：「將挑來的水放入缸中，然後浸入明礬，經攪拌後，不消多久，明礬會形成薄膜，將水中的黃泥沉澱至缸底，就可以舀取上層乾淨的水來使用」，與今日相較，往昔民生物資真是得來不易。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="color:black">祁德亮與母親、家人在蘭州並未久居，因為一個偶然的機緣，讓他們得以與父親相聚。由於抗戰勝利後，飛虎隊的陳納德將軍在上海成立民航空運隊，與祁德亮的父親祁化成有業務往來，因此知道祁化成的家小在蘭州，</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1946</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">35)</span></span><span style="color:black">在某次空運貨物到蘭州前，陳納德請祁化成通知家人，飛機在蘭州卸貨後，回程可以將他們帶回上海，母親獲知消息，盡速準備了隨身細軟，就帶著孩子們搭機順利飛到上海與祁化成團聚。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="color:black">「在上海那幾年，日子過得還算安穩，不過偶有散兵</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(1945</span></span><span style="color:black">年戰後，未及疏運回家鄉的軍人，被迫滯留上海，身無分文也沒有工作</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">遊民行搶的事件發生」。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1949</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">38)</span></span><span style="color:black">解放軍一路攻城掠地，</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">5</span></span><span style="color:black">月，上海不保，祁德亮與家人在虹橋機場搭上最後一班軍機來到台灣。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="color:#2980b9"><span style="font-size:18px"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family:">投身黨務工作 改善勞工環境</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"> <span style="color:black">初到台灣，祁德亮的父親先是在台中從事黨務工作，後來於花蓮稅捐處服務，之後調往新竹，直到</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1994</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">83)</span></span><span style="color:black">過世，均定居於新竹。到台灣後，家人跟著父親遷徙，母親不幸於</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1957</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">46)</span></span><span style="color:black">倉促離世，家逢巨變，當時唸花蓮中學</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">初中</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">的祁德亮與就讀於台灣大學的姐姐，甚至申請休學，來照顧年幼的弟妹，以讓父親無後顧之憂得以安心工作。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="line-height:25.0pt">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="color:black">祁德亮在輔仁大學法律系完成學業後，考入中國國民黨台灣區產業黨部工作，其後歷經生產事業黨部、中央黨部，最後以台北縣</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">現在新北市</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">黨部副主委職位退休，在黨部工作期間，他戮力於為民服務、改善弱勢勞工環境、輔導外資單位成立產業工會</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">通用電子公司</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">)</span></span><span style="color:black">，並曾經被蔣經國先生保舉為特優黨務工作人員。退休後，祁德亮又擔任立委侯彩鳳辦公室主任多年，幫助有法律方面需求之民眾解決困難，亦輔助立委能夠為民喉舌、濟弱扶傾。</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><img decoding="async" alt="" src="https://www.sccf.org.tw/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/105403_story146_storye4b99de69bb2e9bb83e6b2b3e890ace9878ce6b299-e4b880e9878de5a4a9e5a496e4b880e9878de5a4a9-1.jpg" style="width: 841px;height: 469px" /></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </b><b><span style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">祁德亮(左一)與姊姊、父親、妹妹、哥哥、弟弟(前者)合影</span></span></b></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin: 0cm;text-align: center"><span style="font-size:18px"><span style="color:#2980b9"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family:">再見蘭州 不盡古時意</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"><span style="color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"> 2014</span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">103)</span></span><span style="color:black">，祁德亮因為參加「中華兩岸世紀發展協會」的活動，始有機會回到出生地新疆，以及幼時居住過的蘭州，「當年住在黃河大鐵橋附近，看到黃河壯闊雄偉，但是時隔超過一甲子後，舊地重遊，卻發現黃河竟然沒有往日印象中那麼寬廣，或許是因為自己長大長高了，也或許是因為看過更多的名山勝水」，對照今昔心境，祁德亮不禁有感而發！</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin:0cm"><span style="font-size:12pt"><span style="line-height:25.0pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1946</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">35)</span></span><span style="color:black">為躲避哈薩克族人的侵擾而離開新疆到蘭州，</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">1949</span></span><span style="color:black">年</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">(</span></span><span style="color:black">民</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="color:black">38)</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:標楷體"><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:16px"><span style="font-family:微軟正黑體">為遠離國共內戰由上海到台灣，祁德亮雖未直接參與戰爭，但是他深知戰爭所帶來的苦難與無法估計的代價，所以戰爭無情、和平無價，這是每個人都要深思的議題。</span></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"></span></span></span></span></p>								</div>
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